Islamic Authority Clarifies Authentic from False Exorcism – Demon World

Islamic Authority Clarifies Authentic from False Exorcism – Demon World

Imam Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips world renown scholar graduate of Medina University  did his PhD thesis in Scotland at the University of Edinburg (Exorcism – differentiating the authentic from the inauthentic). In 1991

Below is a transcript of a lecture uploaded to the Imam’s YouTube channel January of 2014 View Clip

The world of the ginn is not like the world of the unseen in the rest of the universe.  But the world of the ginn collides with our world at different points in time through different individuals. This has direct relevance to our world.

Now the term ginn comes from the verb (jahannah) which means to cover or to hide or to conceal. And it’s refers to creatures who Allah created besides human beings who also have a free will but who dwell in a world which for the most part invisible to us.

They represent a parallel world to our world. Now how that parallel world exists next too ours?  Some people when they hear that… How that parallel world exists with ours it’s not part of our knowledge. It is not possible to know about it. Neither do the ginn know nor do we know.

And basically, the ginn in terms of their modes of existence are of three types… One type which flies in the air all the time, another type which exists as snakes and dogs. And an earthbound type which resides in one place or wonders about. These are the three forms in which the ginn that exist in the world. With regards to their faith they are divided into two categories, believers and disbelievers, just like human beings. And you’ll find among them those who followed Jesus and those who followed Paul or similar ideas of corruption.

Fortune telling remains an attractive world because you have some fortune tellers who give information which turns out to be accurate. They tell you such and such is going to happen and it happened. So, without that of course nobody would bother to go to fortune tellers. Some of the things they inform us of do take place. So, where did they get this knowledge from? Well the Prophet PBUH explained concerning the ginn that he spoke about. The first type that they are aerial, that can leave our atmosphere into the higher, outer reaches of the universe able to travel at speeds, Allah knows best. And they connect up with other ginn who hover near the first heaven. And when Allah gives commands to the angels, and these commands are passed down through the heavens they are able to hear bits and pieces of information. And they relay this information down. In the process of relaying that information comets and meteorites etc. catch some of them and destroy them. But some information works its way down till it reaches that witch or Warlock, fortune teller.

The other area that our world collides with the world of the ginn is the area of magic. Some people think it’s not real. It’s all fake. tricks… In the midst of it all there are some people involved in real magic. And those people who are involved in real magic are not people who have powers that we don’t have… But it is that they have made contact with the world of the ginn and the ginn operate in collaboration with them. They ask you to do certain acts of shirk and you want what appears to be the power. You do it and they will do it for you. So if you see someone come into the room hold his hand and the water bottle comes into his hand. There are people that can do that. It appears to you that he has some kind of power where he can cause that bottle of water to get up off the table and come into his hand. But the reality is that it is a simple act for the ginn. You can’t see the ginn. He lifts up the bottle and puts it in the guy’s hand.

And we have the third major area after fortune telling and magic. The area of demonic possession where the ginn may enter the body of a human being. Some people say no it’s not possible. It’s not real. It’s fake. Reality is that evidence from the Quran and the sunnah indicate that it is a reality. It is authentically narrated… The prophet opened the boy’s mouth and he said ‘O! Enemy of Allah, I am the Messenger of Allah get out.’ Who is he talking to? It’s a little boy. He is obviously addressing an entity that has entered that boy.

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Toronto Imam: Labels Hadith about Vomiting a Black Puppy Irrational

Toronto Imam: Labels Hadith about Vomiting a Black Puppy Irrational

Senior Imam & scholar Shabbir Ally is interviewed concerning Hadith that reference demon possession & other phenomena. Below is a transcript of a portion of the interview uploaded to the YouTube channel Let the Quran Speak on March 2, 2017 titled Problematic Hadith: Jinn Possession | Dr. Shabir Ally

Interviewer

And what is gin possession

Shabbir Ally

Well that’s the idea that these jinnn some of them being evil creatures who will take possession of the human body, so it’s the ginn mind that controls the body and the human mind is somehow left on the back burner. It is the job of The Exorcist to then remove that gin or evil spirit so that this human mind comes to take possession of his or her own body.

Interviewer

So what are some of the very few stories concerning possession?

Shabbir Ally

Let me share one of the Hadith so we get an idea. This is a Hadith collected from Ibn Abbas. A woman came with a son of hers and said, “O! messenger of Allah this son of mine is insane. He is seized by fits  every morning and ruins our lives.” Allah’s messenger wiped him and prayed for him the boy then vomited and a black puppy came out of his mouth and ran away. Reading, this obviously is in the realm of legendary materials. For a sane Muslim scholar to collect this and be putting it in his book it means that this scholar obviously subscribes to a mindset which is not ours.

Interviewer

So how would you argue with things that others say? Some will say very rational such as the gin or gin possession because we don’t see it so someone else it might seem irrational

Well, I take it even further and not only say that this Hadith, but the whole idea that Jinn possess is in fact irrational.

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